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Posted by: Judith Soames, 9 May 2006 10:15PM
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CPD desert


With all this talk of registration and how much it will cost the therapist, I would like to point out how therapists in the North of England and Scotland are already penalised by the lack of CPD courses offered. I looked through the CPD booklet accompanying the Embody magazine with envy at all the wonderful courses available to people living in the south and the midlands. But in Newcastle which is where I live there was only one course in Hot Stones Therapy, which is a wonderful treatment, but I don't want to study it. The nearest variety of courses are in yorkshire and I would have to pay for the course, pay for travel and usually an over night stay and all the extra costs such as breakfast, etc that soon add up. I know this is nobody's fault, however it isn't exactly equal opportunities either. Could course fees be reduced for people who can prove they have had to pay travel and lodging? Could course providers be tempted further north with financial rewards from a Embody? Complementary therapists work to harmonise and create balance so please can something be done to redress this North/South imbalance??! Jude stuck North of Watford

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Mariette Lobo
9 May 2006 11:22PM

My sentiments, exactly, Judith. There is such a dearth of quality CPD or practitioner diploma courses north of the border or Scotland - private or public. Much of the current activity over CPD, regulation etc seem to be driven by Schools and therapists south of Watford, with their specific interests in mind. We're getting left well behind, but perhaps it is partly our fault. I am struggling to keep a local group going as barely half a dozen, out of a membership of over 50 "names", show any interest in the meetings/events organised on their behalf. I really do feel we're getting a raw deal - from professional organisations (multi, or single therapy), course providers, and - unless we take the trouble to reply to the FIH document about regulation (deadline for replies is end-July) - from the FIH itself. And what about local colleges in all of this - haven't they a part to play? Thank you for starting this debate. Mariette Lobo Local Coordinator, Tayforth
Jon Critoph
10 May 2006 8:34AM

This very much where the local support groups come in. The local group coordinators work very hard to put on a varied programme and at least 5 ewents per year. Each gains 2 CPD credits and many of the talks go on to offer a workshop given sufficient interest. So the course will be local and full of people you have met before. It is a great networking opportunity as well and a chance to lose some of thta feeling of isolation thta can exist when working on your own in this industry. If we don't support them they will close down and then they will be missed. I believe you have a local support group somewhere nearby. Jon Critoph Local Group Coordinator High Wycombe and District
Judith Soames
11 May 2006 9:48PM

Thanks for your support Mariette and Jon. Yes I have contacted my local group and I am attending their next meeting which promises to be interesting, and I think meeting up with other therapists is a great way to learn new skills and hear of new ideas. However I still would like to see a better variety of Embody recognised courses offered in the North. Why is there such a lack of courses? Is it to do with lack of interest, lack of trained tutors, lack of money? Jude
Mariette Lobo
11 May 2006 11:13PM

I suspect it is a bit of all 3, Judith - but especially lack of interest and trained tutors. Those who are trained are too busy running their clinics and working part-time at local colleges (I'm one of them!). In addition, there is little or no emphasis on CPD at colleges so the latter not really interested in putting on courses beyond the basic qualifications. This might, of course, change with Regulation as past students might now demand CPD courses in order to retain their memberships etc. But then colleges have to find tutors able to deliver quality courses and this could prove tricky - there aren't many around. It would also be interesting to see if anyone from Embody Management will respond to your idea that Embody sponsor/subsidise CPD courses for members. Better still, what about course providers from other areas who are willing to come up to the North of England/Scotland - at affordable rates? Mariette
Mariette Lobo
13 May 2006 7:41PM

Mariette Lobo
14 May 2006 10:30PM

More CPD in Scotland: Subject: Working with clients with cancer Do you understand the needs of clients who have been treated for cancer? Would you like to know how Reflexology and Massage can be used to ease the side effects of cancer treatment and support clients as they go through this life-changing experience? Energetics is offering two weekend trainings with Jamie Elswick, a specialist trainer from Anchorage, Alaska. We have a few remaining places for last minute bookings which we would like to offer to practitioners in the Edinburgh area. Saturday 13th - Sunday 14th May 2006 Scar Tissue and Lymphatic Flow Saturday 20th - Sunday 21st May 2006 Eastern Approaches to Oncology Massage The Eastern Approaches course includes work with Reflexology and is suitable for people with no previous training in Oriental medicine. WE HAVE A FINAL FEW PLACES LEFT FOR BOTH WEEKENDS. AS JAMIE IS TRAVELLING FROM THE STATES AND IS A TOP QUALITY TRAINER, WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER REDUCED RATE PLACES IN ORDER TO FILL THE COURSES. LAST MINUTE OFFER: £100 PER WEEKEND (REDUCED FROM £180) FURTHER INFORMATION http://www.energetics.uk.com/classes/practitioner_dev.php TEL 0131 557 9567 Please contact Louise Roy for further information. Mariette
Mariette Lobo
14 May 2006 10:30PM

More CPD in Scotland: Subject: Working with clients with cancer Do you understand the needs of clients who have been treated for cancer? Would you like to know how Reflexology and Massage can be used to ease the side effects of cancer treatment and support clients as they go through this life-changing experience? Energetics is offering two weekend trainings with Jamie Elswick, a specialist trainer from Anchorage, Alaska. We have a few remaining places for last minute bookings which we would like to offer to practitioners in the Edinburgh area. Saturday 13th - Sunday 14th May 2006 Scar Tissue and Lymphatic Flow Saturday 20th - Sunday 21st May 2006 Eastern Approaches to Oncology Massage The Eastern Approaches course includes work with Reflexology and is suitable for people with no previous training in Oriental medicine. WE HAVE A FINAL FEW PLACES LEFT FOR BOTH WEEKENDS. AS JAMIE IS TRAVELLING FROM THE STATES AND IS A TOP QUALITY TRAINER, WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER REDUCED RATE PLACES IN ORDER TO FILL THE COURSES. LAST MINUTE OFFER: £100 PER WEEKEND (REDUCED FROM £180) FURTHER INFORMATION http://www.energetics.uk.com/classes/practitioner_dev.php TEL 0131 557 9567 Please contact Louise Roy for further information. Mariette
Nicki Lee
17 May 2006 11:31PM

Hello Northeners! Living in the south as I do, I enjoy being able to select from a lot of good courses, and I sympathise that a one day course would cost you at least 2 days plus accomodation. I am a massage tutor offering advanced massage technique workshops, and I would be willing to travel and do a few days up north, if you could find a group of people interested and arrange a location. If you'd like to discuss further to see if we can work something out, please contact me directly at nicki.lee@zetnet.co.uk. Best of luck! Nicki
Judith Soames
18 May 2006 8:18PM

Thanks Mariette - seems it isn't such a CPD desert in Scotland after all....! How did you get sent that email? - I rely on Embody to inform me of CPD courses but there are obviously many more out there if you know where to look. Nikki cheers for your contact - I will email you for more info. Jude
Mariette Lobo
18 May 2006 9:23PM

I'll be posting any information I get on this forum, in future. So it's worth checking now and again. I would also suggest you check out the Scottish Institute of Reflexology (SIR) website for details of courses. Mariette
Nicki Lee
19 May 2006 12:02PM

Also do keep in mind that Embody only promote courses that are registered with them, which can be costly. There are many other courses out there, which you can also find on the internet. I would suggest if you want to try some that aren't registered with Embody you might want to investigate a bit, or just start slowly and get some feedback from former students if possible, before committing yourself to too much. I've been on some great courses, but also some that were a bit mediocre and one that was just plain bad!! Nicki
Kelly Bentley
22 Jun 2006 11:08PM

Hi everyone, I'm even further north, in Shetland. There are no accredited CPD courses or workshop up here. And there aren't enough therapists to form a local group (not who all belong to the same association!). I travel for days to get to a course every year. Sandra Day School of Health Studies in Rochdale, might be worth a try for those of you north of Birmingham and south of the scottish borders. They offer a good range of aromatherapy workshops. Kelly
Edith Maskell
9 Jul 2006 3:38PM

Hi I sympathise with anyone north of Watford for all the obvious reasons. However, I think it is only fair to point out that Embody is not an Awarding Body. It is an umbrella body which encompasses a membership across various modalities. It does not, itself, run courses. It can not. It is not linked to any training schools as is the case with the majority of professional associations; hence they do run courses, it is what their business is all about. CThA, BThA etc is purely a membership association. One suggestion to look for courses was the website for Scottish Institute or Reflexologists. The SIR is a professional association formed from their training providers. There are many many more. The couses you see advertised in the Embody brochure are those of course providers who pay for the privilege to advertise their courses. Again, as someones else said, there are hundreds of course providers in the UK. If the majority of those who adversise happen to be in the South, it's really not fair to lay the blame at the feet of Embody is it? As I have said in another message. CPD can be earned from a multitude of means. Therapists do NOT have to do specific CPD "courses". ALL learning which develops the knowledge and experience of a therapist provides CPD. As Jon Critoph pointed out. Members only have to attend 5 meetings a year to gain 10 CPD points which is all that is currently required within CThA and there are over 50 local groups in the UK. If members read their quarterly journal that would be a further 4 points. The list is endless. There are numerous conferences held in the North; Birmingham, York, Manchester, Scotland - they all attract CPD. I see that one member offered to bring her course to you. This is something which local groups often organise. May I suggest that if you see a course offered "down South" that appeals to you, call the course provider and ask whether they will bring it to you, if you find participants. Ask what would be their minimum nuber and then suggest it a local group meeting or ask the co=ordinator to mailshot other members in the area. You might be surprised and end up overwhelmed with the response? Trainers will often allow you do the course for free if you do all the work?! Positive food for thought I hope? Edith Maskell
Rosemary Johnson
9 Jul 2006 10:59PM

If we read the quarterly journals that's 4 points? errrrm...... how is that worked out? why 4? I thought the points worked on an hourly basis. Is this changing? Rosemary
Edith Maskell
10 Jul 2006 8:14AM

It is assumed that each Journal takes an hour to read therefore 1 point for each.
Rosemary Johnson
11 Jul 2006 12:54AM

Assumed that each journal takes an hour to read???? Is this meant to be a joke? - or is it working on the assumption most people read the headlines and skip most of most the text? Or are there really some people who can read that fast/ I'm partially-sighted - it take sme hours and hours and hours to plough through journals - particularly the bits printed on coloured paper! Rosemary
Judith Soames
12 Jul 2006 9:38PM

Edith Please understand I was not attacking Embody or the CThA, merely opening a discussion on what I perceived to be a lack of CPD courses in the North as advertised on the CPD brochure compiled by the CThA. I thought that one could gain CPD points only from courses approved by the CThA and therefore, although I was aware of other course providers, I was not considering them. It seems perhaps I was mistaken here, although I still don't really understand how you would award CPD points if I did a local course not approved by the CThA. I agree local groups are fantastic and an excellent way to broaden knowledge of complementary therapies, but you cannot gain a qualification from one evening's talk, no matter how informative. Finally, it is very nice that you believe in altruism, but I have NEVER found a trainer willing to offer a free course! Jude
Edith Maskell
12 Jul 2006 10:13PM

Hi Jude Seems there is still some confusion and it might be me having misunderstood you! Members can earn CPD points from any course/workshop with any course provider. It does not have to be one that is approved by CThA. Each day is awarded 5 points up to a maximum of 20. I did 6 days last year with one particular course provider which CThA does not recognise. None of which gives me a qualification but they earned me 20 CPD points. However, if you want CThA to recognise the course as an additional qualification to be added to your register or for insurance purposes, then it must be one that is recognised/approved by CThA. Nonetheless, it is still not classified as a CPD course. It's an approved qualification. The CPD points awarded are the same as above however. 5 per day up to a maximum of 20. Confusion reigns. I wasn't suggesting that you could gain a qualification from attending a local group meeting. But you can earn 2 CPD points for each one you attend because hopefully you will learn something which is considered to be helping towards your professional development which is what CPD is .... continuing professional development. And so anything that enables you to continue developing professionally is considered to be CPD! If you wrote up an interesting case study which you felt furthered your development as a practitioner - it can be counted as CPD. If you write an information leaflet to hand to your client or complete a reflective practice log, do a presentation to a group - it is all CPD because you are either educating yourself by reading /writing or educating A N Other. Attending a one day conference/exhibition is worth 5 CPD points. Reading a book which is related to your profession is worth about 2 CPD points. Might have the number wrong but it is certainly valid as CPD. Hope I haven't missed the point or confused you. Please forgive if I have! The long and the short of it is that members don't have to do specific CPD "courses" to earn your CPD points. Best wishes Edith
Judith Soames
18 Jul 2006 7:57PM

Edith Thank you, this is the best explanation I have had on how to earn CPD points! It should be included with the CPD form to remind people how they can add up points throughout the year. Regards, Jude
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