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Posted by: Raymond Major, 8 Mar 2009 1:36PM
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like most profesional practitioners that i have spoken to i am totaly feed up with the wholw proccess. talk about regulation has beeb going on since i qualifies back in 1997, and we are still no further on. during that time the name of the so called profesional assocciation that i joined has been changed ( without reference to the menbership ) no less than four times. i now discover that the name is owned by some media company that i have never heard of. the information coming from the assocciotions about the regulation procces has at the best been scetchy and at the worst totaly useless. IT ABOUT TIME WE THERAPISTS STOOD UP AND SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.


Keith A. Meager
28 May 2009 10:37AM

When I look at the piece posted here by Raymond, I really feel disappointed. What impression is Raymond giving just by his spelling and grammar? What message is this sending out about the quality of Complementary Therapists? I think it's time we started embracing Regulation and seeing all the positive aspects of it. It is early days, and it must be acknowledged that there has been much debate, and no doubt, many mistakes made. But the more we strive towards professional standards, the more we are aligned with other healthcare professionals, the more we commit to learning, the sooner we will be accepted as an integral part of the healthcare community. Above all friends, the more we do to improve our professional standards, the more people will benefit from the range of therapies we have worked so hard to become competent to deliver. So please, let us stop banging on about the drawbacks of regulation, and start thinking about why we are therapists in the first place, and how we can best make a significant contribution to the health and wellbeing of our people. Keith A Meager reiki Master-Teacher The Reiki Journey
Richard Johnson
25 Jul 2009 2:25PM

a big 'hear hear' for Keith! A therapist actually interested in progressing his profession!
Angela Rawlins
5 Mar 2010 5:25PM

Tut tut, that poor chap might have dyslexia for all you both know!
Keith A. Meager
5 Mar 2010 5:37PM

Dear Reader, Yes indeed he might, a condition with which I have much empathy. However, this is a public forum, and I feel strongly that as professional therapists we should be prepared to demonstrate that we are credible practitioners in the market place. How on earth do therapists expect to practice without high professional standards? No disability should preclude a person being a qualified and professional practitioner, but surely it is vital that we present our credentials in our shop window to the highest of standards commensurate with our colleagues in the medical and allied professions. Keith A Meager Ther Reiki Journey. 05.03.2010.
Angela Rawlins
5 Mar 2010 5:51PM

Dear Keith I can quite understand where Raymond is coming from and I think that the anger within him and the haste I suspect he typed the passage probably caused his fingers to linger longer on the keys or perhaps to light and missed a letter. The issue there was not his misspelt words but the content. I also became a member the same year as Raymond and I also am not happy with the way every thing has worked out. After all, are our ethics not to criticise other professionals?
Keith A. Meager
6 Mar 2010 11:25AM

Hi Angela, I completely respect your opinion, and indeed, your right to express it. I am bound to repeat however, that those of us committed to the highest professional standards and Continual Professional Development, are striving to gain equality with our colleagues in the medical and allied professions in order that our patients may receive the very best treatment and a fully integrated holistic approach to what ails them. It is of absolutely no value presenting to the public anything less than a high standard of data in a credible manner. As for regulation, there are those opposed, and there are those in favour. Let us all respect one another's opinions, but understand that Regulation may enhance the way in which our various therapies may be more readily accepted in the marketplace. Sincere, In light & peace Keith Meager. Reiki Journey. 06.03.10
Raymond Major
7 Mar 2010 10:10AM

well it's taken over a year but my mis spelt message has had some effect. sorry to offend you keith but i didn't go to a posh school just the school of hard knock's. angela was right i was angry very very angry, that the holistic therapy industry as a whole is being hood winked by people, mainly from outside the industry, who have a very political agenda. keith, i would like to say that i have from the time i started training whole heartedly supported and been involved in the regulation procces so that the public is protected from people who, after doing a short weekend course etc., claimed to be proficient in a certain modality and advertised them selves a such. what has happened to the regulation program is that it has been taken over by non therapist's sponsered by international drug/media companies and people within the industry with their own political adgenda's. this has been born out by emails i have received recently showing how a body which is supposed to be the regulation/registering body,is ordering the leaders of cetain therapy organisations to support it in the takeover of an other therapy association just because they don't like the people currently running it. is this realy within the remit of this body????NO. do we want our associations being told who and what they will support!! the answer is a very definate NO. i for one will not subscribe to any organisation that is not democratic in it's process. so fellow therapists i ask you to think hard and long before you join any so called 'regulatory register' i was thinking of retiring soon but feel i can't abandon my clients to people who place more importance on a piece of paper than their own pride,intuition and profesional skills. in love and light rkm PS. WHY DO WE NEED THREE DIFERENT REGISTERING BODIES????????
Keith A. Meager
9 Mar 2010 9:26AM

Hi Raymond. I am so pleased to see your response. I have to point out that I am just one individual. You make some good and valid points which I entirely respect. I do not feel it necessary to repeat my points, but perhaps others would care to contribute to this debate. One thing is for sure, we will never improve an imperfect situation unless we speak out. Personally, my view is that I was to see properly qualified, experienced and professional Complementary therapists accepted and, and working alongside all mainstream health practitioners. One thing worthy of repeating, and made in your response Raymond, it is the patient/client who should come first, but they need two things; Trust in their therapists, and correct data to make an informed decision about who they should consult. This principal must apply whether we are regulated or not. In Light & Peace Keith Meager. Reiki Journey. 09.03.10.
Keith A. Meager
9 Mar 2010 9:29AM

My turn to make a spelling error. Hey Raymond, I went to that school too my friend: That I want to see properly........ KM
Angela Rawlins
9 Mar 2010 8:21PM

Hi Well, as for these forums being 'public' that is not so, only CThA members can access the forum posts. I believe that the only trained people who will be recognised by the medical profession will be the nurses or doctors who so happen to have some knowledge of complementary therapies! Complementary therapy is slowly, slowly, slowly by a few medical practitioners being recognised as having some benefits - even if it is a 'placebo effect'!! Unfortunately there have not been many trials that stand up to the medical/scientific testing required - it doesn't mean it doesn't work!! Yes, I am for 'regulation' of therapies - meaning that all Reflexologists, Aromatherapists etc are trained to the same standards - however, what I am hearing about the body being promoted heavily by various Associations I do NOT like. I did take part in a therapist survey for the Working party and I do believe that the results of the survey was totally ignored! We the therapists were supposed to have a choice of Regulating body ie CNCH and the GRCCT. I feel that the Associations should be presenting all Regulatory bodies and giving the therapist the facts on all so we can choose. After all, it is supposed to be 'voluntary'!!
Carolyn Scott
17 Mar 2010 10:22AM

I'm so glad I have found this forum. Have recieved my renewal form this week only to find a 'request to register' form tucked away in the back. There is on the main letter no explanation as to what this is, it could almost be regarded as 'junk mail'!. I thought that the point of joining a 'regulation body' was to ensure that all therapist of whatever skill, were trained to a standard that is recognised by all. By Embody's own admission they are the one that members of the public turn to when in serch of looking for a complimentary therapist? Why do we need to join another 'regulatory body' with more expense incurred especially as we are in a recession with not that much cash flowing? I need some clarification on what to do, my gut feeling is not to join. But will this stop me from getting or maintaining what work I do, I work in privatly run care homes & from home?
Dawn Spragg
30 Apr 2010 9:13PM

Dawn Spragg
30 Apr 2010 11:11PM

Angela Rawlins
4 May 2010 2:47PM

Dawn Do you attend local group meetings?? Did you know that Regulation is voluntary and that there is another regulatory body, The GRCCT?? Therapists do not have to register with the the CNHC, they can do so with the GRCCT if they would prefer. The DOH do not stipulate you 'have' to be Regulated with either body, only that they hope therapists will join. If you wish to look at the GRCCT web site it is: www.grcct.org. What benefits are there to belonging to a 'voluntary regulation body'??? Will anyone in the NHS take any notice of a 'voluntary' register? We are as therapists and members of the CThA already being regulated. The regulatory bodies check that we belong to an organization and then are suitable to have 'Regulatory' status with them as we have already been checked.
Francesca Cairns
14 May 2010 9:26AM

hi Everyone Just wanted to say how interested I was to read some of your comments Angela you gave really good advice and Dawn, I feel for your frustration. I am a Complementary Health Practitioner, Tutor, Trainer and Mentor and have worked in the NHS as a patient advocate. I first qualified in 1984, and no that's no typo, I really have been in the business for 26 years. Which presents an interesting view point, as I have lived the history, so to speak. Regulation does not make you a better Therapist, it makes you registered, with proof of having sat exams, which does not necessarily equate with competance and standards. Ah I hear you say, my college had a good programme and high standards, yes I'm sure they have, the question is who set those standards and how did they arrive at what is considered best practice, and who qualified them to set that standard? Sorry guys just thinking aloud apologies no picture, have not got round to uploading, would I be more qualified with a pic? Enjoy your day Francesca
Keith A. Meager
14 May 2010 10:39AM

I completely agree. Qualifications should be the starting point. An excellent training pedigree should follow. How many are training without a teaching qualification and up to date requisite experience (provable). And, how many can prove their effectiveness as practitioners? This is why I support regulation, let those of us (sorry if that sounds conceited but I have over 40 years in the business) who can prove their teaching and practice effectiveness, and can prove their CPD and committment to quality standards, be held to account, put to the test, then be held as equal to our colleagues in orthodox healthcare. Sorry to those of you who are really good at your job but who do not support this view. I completely respect your arguments, and can understand where you stand. But for me, at over 60 years of age, I am happy to strive for the highest standards in all respects, and be refused a licence to practice or teach, should I fail. Keith Meager. (Reiki-Journey).
Angela Rawlins
14 May 2010 2:54PM

Hi I actually do support 'Regulation of therapists', however, the only 'Regulation' that the medical profession will acknowledge is 'Statutory'. I do not believe they will credit 'voluntary regulatory bodies', especially where there is more than one! You have to belong to an 'Association' to qualify to be accepted on the Regulatory Register - it is the Associations who in fact 'regulate' us already by ensuring that we have the specific relevant certification. Will the 'Regulatory' bodies them selves be under scrutiny to ensure that they are of a high standard? Will the Directors/Administrators be checked to make sure that they are of a quality that is required?? Who is/will answering our questions?
Angela Rawlins
14 May 2010 3:16PM

Google David Colquhoun who is on the Board of CHNC's Conduct & Competence Committee.
Keith A. Meager
14 May 2010 3:57PM

From little acorns mighty oaks shall grow. Let us push for one step at a time and keep pushing. Keith Meager
Gladys Wright
29 Aug 2010 10:44PM

Hi Keith I totally agree with you Gladys Wright
Rodney Stuart Robinson
1 Mar 2011 4:08PM

Angela Rawlins
16 Mar 2011 10:14PM

Robert, here here
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